Annie:
Welcome to The Whole Assistant Podcast. I'm your host, Annie Croner. I'm a former assistant who's passionate about our profession, and I'm also a certified coach who's invested in your success. You've come to the right place if you want to know what it looks like to stand in your power and achieve success as an assistant through overwhelm and burnout. Now on to today's episode. Hey, everyone. Welcome to The Whole Assistant Podcast. Today, we have a special treat. I have been doing more collaborations, and I have been really trying to expose you guys to people who are doing some really cool things in our industry. So joining me today is Craig Bryson and Jodie Mears. They are the founders of the Crodie Files Podcast. It's Craig and Jodie together. Crodie files. I love that. And so they're joining me on this, on this podcast, and I'm going to have them introduce themselves, tell my audience a little bit about you guys. So, Craig, I'm going to turn it over to you first.
Craig Bryson:
Hi, everyone. Thank you, Annie, for letting me join your amazing podcast. I'm Craig Bryson. I am a full time EA, working as an executive for a global partner within the search firm. I'm also a co host of the Crodie Files.
Annie:
Awesome, awesome. So, Jodie, will you tell my audience a little bit about you?
Jodie Mears:
Sure, yeah. My name is Jodie Mears. I'm also an executive assistant. I have experience as an assistant in some shape, form, capacity, job title. For over 20 years now. That means I've been everything from a receptionist, data entry clerk, bids and proposals coordinator, a PA, an assistant, and now an executive assistant. And, yeah, Craig and I met at a job placement that I was at. I was in between jobs. I went for a temporary role. Craig and I hit it off straight away. I loved his energy and what he brings to the the assistant profession. I was really interested in what he was doing in his organization at the time. And we took it from there.
Jodie Mears:
We had chats. We would network and get to learn a bit more about each other. And Craig had this crazy idea that he said to me, what do you want to do next? And it transpired that Craig fancied organizing a podcast, which I said, absolutely not. No, I don't do that. That's not me. I'm not good at speaking. But anyway, here we are. I dared him to do one thing, and then I would do one thing, and then it kept going back and forward until we organized and got the Crodie file podcast off the ground within a matter of months. And we are not even in our first year yet. Our first birthday is in August 2, and we are loving every moment of reaching all corners of the world with sharing the knowledge, which is our ethos.
Annie:
Yes. So one of the things I love about you both is that just your authenticity. Like, I love listening to your podcast, and I encourage you all to check it out. I will link to their podcast in the show notes, so please check that out as well. But one of the things I love about listening to your podcast is that I almost feel a sense of solidarity with you because you're. Because you're, like, walking the walk and you're, you know, you're real time executive assistants. And I think that we can just feel so siloed and so isolated. And so that's one of the things I really appreciate about listening to your podcast, is that your perspectives are so relatable because you're just your two executive assistants who have come together to collaborate on this really cool project.
Jodie Mears:
We're live and direct. Live and direct in the role.
Annie:
So thank you. Thank you for actually being brave, I guess, and putting yourself out there and, and sharing your stories and your perspectives. I do think that's super, super valuable. And so today, I forgot to say this towards the beginning of the podcast, but today we're going to be talking about networking because we met, because we networked. So networking works.
Jodie Mears:
Networking really works. Yeah. That's why we're here.
Annie:
Yeah. So. And what I love about it, too, is that I think all my friends, like all my very close girlfriends, I met on the job. And so I do feel like you can really establish really deep relationships through your network if you allow yourself to do that. But I do want to start, start the conversation by asking what strategies executive assistants can implement and, like, in person networking events to calm their nerves and make meaningful connections. Because I know for me, it's not so hard to network online because there's, like, virtual space between us. What is more challenging is being live in a room full of people. And I used to network for my former executive who was in the family office space.
Annie:
I would go to these family office networking events. I would more often than not be the only woman there. And I would be so nervous. Like, I don't even know how to start a conversation. But I know, Craig, that this is your superpower. We've talked about this before, so I would love to hear your perspective. Like, how do you actually engage with people? How do you actually plan for that? Like, can you come up with a strategy for yourself? And how do you do that? And if you could share about the ins and outs of that, I would really appreciate it.
Craig Bryson:
Yeah. So I enjoy. I'm an extrovert where Jamie is the introvert, and I'm like, networking and lots of love meeting people. I love the energy that you get from meeting these people. So what I do when I start off going into the network, I prepare for it. So it's looking at where the event is held, who's going look on this, their social medias get to know the post people that you're going to be meeting at the event. And that gives you some conversational skills that when you do come into a group and you don't know what to say, those sort of tips and tricks that you hear that you've learned on, like, the history of the building, or do you love this restaurant? I've eaten here before and I think getting that's sort of the icebreaker, but also listening intensively and not just over talking people and trying to listen to what they are saying and reciprocate to the conversations as well. And don't, you know, stand in the corner on your mobile. Because when I see people standing in the corner with their mobile, I think, oh, they're too busy.
Craig Bryson:
They don't have time to talk. Put the mobiles away. And then to introduce yourself, just walk up to a group and just go, hi, I'm Craig, I'm an executive assistant. You know, what's your name? And then I have a few tricks on how to remember people's names because that's always a big surprise towards, like, a couple of hours later, you still remember their names and you still know where they worked because you've taken the time to learn who they are and what they're about. And that is when somebody says their name, actually spell it in your head, look above them, and mainly spell the name out. And so you creating that anchor points within your, in your mind with that person's face and the name above it. So every time you see them, you can actually visualize their name. And that's how I'm able to.
Craig Bryson:
And it's about making people feel welcomed and, and making them feel, you know, that you care. And that's the secret of my, my success of the networking.
Annie:
Yeah, yeah. Thank you for sharing that. I love the name thing because I am notorious for forgetting names. And I know, Jodie, we talked about this yesterday. Like, you're, like, you're in the similar boat. It's really hard to remember people's names.
Jodie Mears:
I know you from somewhere, or I remember you, but you just cannot for the life of you remember that name. So implementing Craig's strategy for me and my learning style as well, that has been a game changer. So, yeah, thanks for that, Craig.
Annie:
So, Jodie, Craig just mentioned that you're an introvert. How do you, like, harness your introvertedness? Like, that power and, like, what does that look in terms of a network, how does that look in terms of a networking environment for you, then?
Jodie Mears:
Totally the opposite to Craig, right? So I can give you the opposite. So this is our chemistry, Craig, say one thing and I'll say, yeah, but, and say the next. And that's how you can get both sides of a story or a situation in real time from both kind of differences of opinion. But we get along and it works. I'll start off by saying, not even four years ago you would never have caught me dead at a networking event. It was definitely not for me. Did not see any value in it whatsoever. I'm not that type of person.
Jodie Mears:
It does not apply to me. No, thank you. Don't talk to me. I don't know you. Why would I go out with you in my spare time? I didn't get it. I would say if you're one of those, I am a confident introvert, but that doesn't mean I don't find every networking event a struggle. I do have a panic. I sometimes back out.
Jodie Mears:
But something in me, which is my passion for the industry, the profession, the role, pushes me every time to say, just do it, just do it anyway. What's the worst that can happen? I would say that you mentioned, you know, it's easy to network online because you're behind the screen, you're behind the keyboard. If you, you do need to bring it to life. I mean, it's not. If you want to is you do need to flip and reverse that networking fear, because there is absolutely no point having an online Persona if you cannot back it up in person. So we spoke about the catfish kind of analogy. It's really important if you want something long term out of it. And unless you're a troll online who just remains online, aggravating people, it's important that if you want something long term out of it, whether it's, you know, your next speaking gig or your next opportunity in a role in a business somewhere else, out of town, in a different country, maybe you have to practice what you preach and if you are a heavy keyboard warrior, it's not going to work.
Jodie Mears:
So my top tip would be network in reverse as an introvert. So practice networking in person first before you get confident. Networking online, that's really helped me. So I would look out for events that are maybe local to begin with, find out who is going to be there. But most of all, network with intention. There's absolutely no point calling it a networking event if it's kind of unorganized. You don't know what you're going to gain from it. There's no point to it.
Jodie Mears:
You don't know who's going to be there. So how do you know that you're going to get any roi on your time? So network with intention. Find out what the topic, subject, theme is for the networking event, who's going to be there, and then think about what questions you might want to ask. So that's where your networking with intention comes in. Why do you want to go? What sparked your interest in the first place in attending? Was it the venue? So maybe you want to ask, like Craig said, find out who the host is and ask more questions to the host of the venue. Host rather than the networking host. Maybe you want to home in on that particular venue and ask questions for offsite that you've got coming up. So as an introvert and a starter, going back to what I didn't like to do versus what I now do, I would say network in person first, practice in person, and then your online presence will just flow naturally and authentically.
Jodie Mears:
And network with intention. Be choosy with who you choose to hang out with, personally and professionally. Make sure it's worth your time. If there's a cost attached, make sure you get something out of it in terms of making a connection. And for me, the fortune is always in the follow up. So always, whatever that fortune might mean to you, a connection, a continued conversation, a special offer to have your event, your next event at that venue, follow up out of courtesy. And that's where the next stage of connection and natural conversation will just carry on. But be the one to drop that message the following day, or even that, you know, a few hours after the event, if you can, or the very next day, be the one to follow up first.
Jodie Mears:
The fortune is definitely the follow up.
Craig Bryson:
I agree. The follow up is great because if you're nervous of going to a new networking event by following up on the first event that you do, you have that connection, and those people are going to be at that events as well, the next one. So you can point, always message them and go, are you going to this next event? That kind of the whole assistance is going to be still holding and oh yes, I'm going to be there. So then you start buddying up with some people. So then you can go in into a group, so you're not alone all the time. So I think the first one is always nerve wracking, but the second or the third one, you've actually started creating your own sort of group of people. That you will probably meet at networking. So that is a valid point that is mentioned.
Annie:
I love that. And I also really like what you said about being intentional about why you're going. I will say that, for me, when somebody approaches me and they want something from me, it's like, okay, I just met you, and now you're asking me, like, what is going on? So I will say, too, just from another perspective on this is, like, you always want to view this as giving more than you expect to get. Like, you aren't making a connection to get a new job. I mean, hopefully it will lead to that, right? But who wants to hire the creepy person who's asking for a job at the first. At the first meetup? So just be aware of that in terms of the intention around it. Like, you may need a job. That may be your reality.
Annie:
And I always like to go to these things with a mindset of, like, what do I have to offer? And also just knowing that I have a lot to offer someone. And I will say, too, that I rely on my network a lot. Like, a lot, a lot. In fact, I'll tell this story. My friend Sarah, she is here in Denver. Shout out to Sarah if you're listening to this episode. She reached out to me one time, and she was looking for a very specific pen. And everywhere that she had come, everywhere that she had researched was out of this pen in Denver.
Annie:
And she's like, Annie, do you know of anybody who may have access to this pen? Or I may know where I can get one of these? And it just so happened that I was with the home manager of my executive at the time, and I asked him, and he's like, oh, yeah, he's a jeweler, and he was in his former life, so he happened to know where to get the pen. So I will say that, like, you know your network, if you actually develop your network, you don't know what the payout could be potentially down the road. You don't know how people can help and support you if you're willing to help and support them. And I'm not saying that we want to make that, like, helping and supporting someone else a second job, but generally, as a people group, we are very helpful. That's why we're in the roles we're in, because we genuinely love to support and help other people. So that is your superpower. Leverage that when you're in a networking event, even if you're in need of something yourself in that, in that moment. Um, absolutely.
Jodie Mears:
I think the intentional part comes from me being very unintentional for a long time and potentially, in hindsight, wasting time with not being honest with myself as to what I wanted out of going. Was it community? Did I want something more? But you're right, you can't expect something on the first meeting if it's a long game. Networking is a very long game. You won't get necessary. I mean, you might be lucky, but rarely do people just turn up at a random hotel room or a nice restaurant with brand new people you've never seen before, let alone had a conversation with, and start doing business. Rarely. It just doesn't you. It doesn't usually happen like that, does it, Craig?
Craig Bryson:
No, it doesn't. I like to throw in, what I did is that I approached my boss, I've been working with him for like seven years now and we've got a lot of clients that come back with, you know, more work for us. And I'm always dealing with the same eas all the time. Never met them, but they just. How's your daughter? Oh, she's fine. She's now graduating and it's just whole relationship you have with these people that you just meet over the emails. So I approached my boss and I said, what clients do you really want to get into the diaries and that? And he told me this whole little list. So what I did is I reached out to those eas that I actually talk to all the time and say, I've got this restaurant down the road and I would love to take you six out to go.
Craig Bryson:
And one, it's showing the venue. So I go to my supplier and I say, well, I can bring six high sort of eas that could come in and book your venue. And they say, yeah, we can give you the private room free, been given three drinks, then I reach out to my eas, I book them in, we go meet. We've never met before in person, but we know each other for such a long time. And then we, we have this great evening. They do a show around and my boss now, when I email the EA and says, well, my boss wants to get into your boss. And she says, great, I can move Monday, 09:00 I'll move his meetings there. Paul can have right inside that meeting there.
Craig Bryson:
So it's networking in a different way and it's more like sort of niche and so using your suppliers and getting your clients eas in there because nobody wants to pay for anything. But if you can sort of arrange it, it's great. And it's like we never had this before. We never had this before. This is great.
Jodie Mears:
Well, that's a null thing, isn't it? That's, that's a bulk that's almost building on your internal network. So it depends how you view the word networking. I think in a business sense, networking groups and networking dinners, if you like, are a little bit more daunting. But when you apply it to something more relatable, like an EA client, EA networking event, internal networking event. That's where you can start off and diminish the scaries, as I call them, that you might have associated with networking. It can begin as small as you like. You can create an internal network to practice, get in touch with other eas across your organizations that maybe are international. And it doesn't have to always be in person.
Jodie Mears:
At the beginning. That would have been my ideal situation in hindsight, with maybe a monthly networking call and build up your relationships that way. And like you said, it will really foster those relationships for whatever comes your way later on down the line. If you are going to search for a new opportunity, it's not going to happen right away. You could get very lucky. But seldom do other EAs networking want to vouch for a new EA coming into that group, for their skills, their authenticity, their achievements. You can't vouch for other people unless you get to know and can endorse what they're doing to then recommend them. So networking absolutely works.
Jodie Mears:
Don't think it doesn't work. Don't think it's not for you because you're not a business owner, you're an assistant. It absolutely is for you. And if you don't want to do it for yourself, maybe do it for your executive. Like you said, annie, you used to do it on behalf of your executive. So you become that third person. You're not actually doing it for yourself, but in a way you really are because you could make connections on behalf of your organization and your boss. Eas talk to Eas.
Jodie Mears:
All assistants talk to each other globally. And you never know who was looking for someone just like you or just like your organization. You never know when that conversation is going to drop. Like, I know Jodie works for that company and I'm wondering if I can get my sales director in touch with her managing director. You never know when that connection is going to come into fruition, when you are going to be the star of the show, the star of the company. I would just say just try. We've got so many tips and tricks for networking, their articles, posts.
Craig Bryson:
Yeah, I think also mentorship is great. If you know somebody that is really good in experience, I would always connect with them and ask them for guidance, because mentoring is great, and it's not you reading a book called learning a sort of skill, you. You having that connection and that relationship, and you can see what those people do and go, oh, I'm going to try that. And that's another way to feel comfortable.
Jodie Mears:
In the networking buddy up with a networking pro. Yeah.
Annie:
I also think we are so uniquely positioned to connect with the doorman. I think even about my internal connections in previous roles, and I was, like, best friends with Steve the Doorman, and I was also really good friends with these higher ups and these other key players in my executives world. That's what I love about the role, is that we can straddle so many different areas and avenues and make those connections. And I got to tell you, Steve got me out of a couple pickles a few times. He really did. Like, with regards to having deliveries and that sort of thing, or, or I left my key card one time, and I couldn't get out of the garage, and he actually was able to let me out. So because I actually. He knew.
Annie:
He knew. He knew me. We had a friendship. We had a relationship. So I think even. Even when you think about who would be helpful for you to know, even though it may not be directly helpful for you and your role, having those other connections can be super helpful in the long run. And it doesn't have to come from, like, a disingenuous. Disingenuous or, like, inauthentic place.
Annie:
It can come from a place of total curiosity. And I think that was my. My take on everyone. Like, everyone I would come in contact with, I was just so curious about them, and I just wanted to know more. And I think that's part of the reason why I became a coach. So I'm like, okay, so tell me more about that. Let's break it down. And walking them through the process of figuring out whatever it is we're working on.
Annie:
So I will say that having that curious piece about people and just being genuinely curious about them and what makes them tick is a great kind of vantage point and entryway into networking and into creating those relationships that will serve you long term. And I say that it sounds really bad because, like, it's what you get out of it, but there's a reality that, of course, if you're friends with someone, there's gonna be a benefit there beyond the friend, the actual friendship itself, like, people who are willing to help you out and that's, there's nothing wrong with that.
Craig Bryson:
Yeah, I do that.
Annie:
Yeah, sorry, go ahead.
Craig Bryson:
I do that with the internal, with the reception. If I need a meeting room and I've forgotten to book a meeting room for my boss and the client's coming, the receptionist, she'll go, yeah, yeah, I'll move this and, you know, I'll sort that out. I'll get this in and it's great. And then I later on during the week and give her a box of chocolates and say thank you for getting me out of that sticky situation. And it's that nice sort of showing that you gave that helped family helped you and recognizing that and giving that thank you back. Did they always remember that? You know, they always go, I wonder if I'm getting another box of chocolates for him.
Jodie Mears:
He never gave me chocolates yet.
Annie:
Yeah, Craig, get on it, get on it.
Jodie Mears:
I swear I've got you out of a lot of sticky situations in the past year. All right, I'll expect that one, Craig. But I think a good skill we all hold naturally is we're people connectors. So we're almost like the go to people. Well, we are, we're known as the go to people of the office. We're known as the oracle of information. We are known as the know it all of the office because we get to hear, absorb, track, store so many different pieces of information, policies and procedures. We know it all.
Jodie Mears:
It is our job to know it all or know the people who know it all. So connecting people with people, I think is something that every assistant is naturally amazing at. And if I can be that go through road, that conduit between connecting people, then in a way I am the networker. So don't think that you don't know how to network. You absolutely do because of your natural skill as an assistant to be a people connector. That in itself is networking and internal networking.
Craig Bryson:
Work your magic.
Jodie Mears:
Yeah, working your magic with the people you already know and have relationships in the office. You know, you go to different departments, you know how accounts work, you know who to go to for it, help. It's not coming out of the blue in a blank email. That's cold. You know how to get what you want when you want it, in a really lovely, diplomatic, authentic way. And that's what I love about assistance is we all carry that personality trait within us. And I think that's why we get along so well. Even, you know, networking, like right now, you know, you're, you are an assistant, Ali and we already know, we know you.
Jodie Mears:
We get you on that professional level because we must hold elements of each other's Persona because we were and are executive assistants.
Annie:
Yeah, that's one of the things that I love about my EA community and about us as EAs. It's like you're already starting here with someone. Like, you're already starting to step up because you just intrinsically have a mutual understanding. And nobody understands the role of assistant like, another assistant. Nobody. Because the role is so unique. I think it's the only role of its kind that is so unique in terms of its value. Add in terms of who you're supporting. Like, all those factors, personalities and everything are really strong, whereas, like, if you're a marketing associate, you're basically going to be doing the same thing at every job.
Annie:
But executive assistants, the role is so varied and it's so dependent on the executive and the need and personalities and all of that that it's a very unique role. So this episode is going live during administrative Professionals Week 2024. And I really do hope that it inspires you all to grow your network of executive assistants. I really do feel like we are stronger together. I really do feel like we can come alongside and support one another and we can encourage one another and we can be helpful to one another. And we may have a different take on situation based on our experience that you may not be aware of. So really, that communal community piece is really important, especially for executive assistants, where we do feel so siloed in our day to day to get out of that weeds, to get out of our silos for a little while and come together and, like, have conversations. And I'm always impressed whenever I train for a company or I'm brought in to speak or whatever, the collective knowledge in the room.
Annie:
Oh, yeah. It's just I'm in awe of it every time. I'm like, there is so much collective knowledge and how much of that are we actually sharing with one another? How much of that are we actually leveraging to help one another succeed and grow? And so just something to be aware of when we are in our day to day heads down in the weeds. Like, if you can look up long enough to reach out to someone and make that connection, it can be powerful and it can serve you long term. So I just get goosebumps thinking about it.
Jodie Mears:
Yeah, I do, too. And one thing that struck out to me, as you were saying that, do you know why I like networking with assistants and even turning up and in person as an introvert? How and why it is easy to network in person first with assistance rather than strike up relationships online. They're the only people who don't start a conversation off with. So what do you do? What is exactly does an assistant do? You don't have to have that conversation. It's so annoying because you just don't even know where to start. Yeah, so. And that's where the language comes in that is holding us back, because it's easier to say, well, I look after people's calendar and inbox and, yeah, book a few restaurants every now and again and you just think, oh, my God, that is exactly why I do do that. But I just.
Jodie Mears:
How long have they got, you know? So to wrap it up, someone who doesn't get the role, you start regurgitating these negative connotations that are actually holding us back. But it's so much easier just to wrap it up in a couple of sentences that you think is easy for them to understand. What you do when what we do is so vast, so different, but the same, it's such a contradiction. It's everything. And some people do describe what we do as, oh, I just do everything because it is so big. The role is big. It could be as much or as little as you want it to be. And that's why I love networking with assistants.
Jodie Mears:
And your silo part as well, struck a nerve with me because for years I was under the impression that eas pas just put their heads down and you just get on with it, you know, just get on with your work. Everyone's happy, everyone's supported. I never had the concept of sharing knowledge, or knowledge shared with me in such a life changing way. So that's part of my drive. Goal and mission now, is to let everyone know what I know, because what I know now, it's taken me so long to figure out over 20 years, I want everyone to be able to fast track and be better than I'll ever be just through sharing knowledge. And we shouldn't be fearful for sharing knowledge because it all comes back to our unique, personal brand. I might be able to do the same things you can do, Annie, and vice versa, but no one will be you and no one will be me. So I should not be fearful in advising you or pointing something out to you or even teaching you a new way of organising, blah, blah, blah.
Jodie Mears:
You're not going to come and take my job? Yeah, it's not a fearful piece. And when you can release that, it's such a relief, isn't it, Craig? It's to know you share knowledge without the fear of being taken, without the fear of someone copying you or someone imitating you as you might move in on me. And that's the experience I've had in the past, and I just want to flip it and make sure that no one has that going forward. Just share what you know, but no one will be you.
Annie:
Yeah. It really does take a level of self awareness, and I think that we can be very territorial with our roles. And actually, I don't know who said it. I know I'm not the first person to say this, but I saw this on LinkedIn. Of course, I'm so active on LinkedIn, but one of the things that was said was like, being the only person who can do your role doesn't make you irreplaceable. It makes you a liability. And so, and when you think about it, even in terms of your own self care and time away from your role, you have to have somebody who can cover for you. You have to have, you have to share the knowledge so that when you're off, you can actually be off and not worrying about what's going on at the office. Not to say that your executive won't feel the void of you not being there to support him or them, but for sure, for sure, that knowledge sharing piece can be super powerful and can also kind of help us reframe for ourselves an insecurity that we're having and name that as an insecurity instead of kind of being thoughtless about it and just being super, there again, territorial. So I think that's really wise for sure.
Craig Bryson:
I created a sharepoint called share the knowledge. And I like the fact that when people look up on that, share the knowledge and go, oh, my God, I didn't know we could do that. Oh, we could do that. And seeing their faces light up when they've found the answer and they go, oh, that's great. And that knowledge, I like that. I like to see how people are elevated and got all that information that they need, and I don't like to hold anything back because it's unfair. And network learn and grow, and we're not going to grow by holding all our cause to our chest. So I think sharing, it's karma.
Craig Bryson:
It's going to come back again. You're going to be learning something from somebody else as well. So they'll be sharing it. So, and I think we are like a tribe, you know, like a tribe, the ea tribe, and coming together when you're in a conference, you can say, put your hands up. Anybody that's changed a toner in a photocopier, everybody's put their hand up. Or whose boss has come to you and say, oh, the photocopy is not working well, you need to put paper in it. And then everybody in the audience would laugh because they know that experience that they boss is broken. No, just needs paper. Just pull the drawer out. Put the paper in. Oh, I can't do that. And people, that's the community I like, I enjoy.
Annie:
Yeah, yeah. That solidarity piece is really powerful. And the only way that you're going to experience it is if you get out there and network and meet other executive assistants coming full circle here. Well, thank you guys so much for being here today. I really, really appreciate you coming on the podcast. Can you please share where people can find you that are there? Again, I'm going to link to the crote files in my show notes, guys, so please check that out. But also, can I link to your LinkedIn profiles so that people can connect with you on LinkedIn?
Craig Bryson:
Absolutely. Yeah.
Jodie Mears:
We want to hear from you all and, yeah, send us messages. Let's stay in touch and have authentic connections and check in on each other, share what you know. Oh, absolutely. We're all about that.
Craig Bryson:
I would like to. I like all the people out there listening. I want you to try that name thing and how to remember somebody's name and then message us on LinkedIn to see how you got on and if it worked.
Annie:
Yes. I feel like that's gold. It's going to be gold for me. I know. And I'm a very visual person, so I like the idea of, like, spelling it out above their heads, like, visualizing that. And I think that will really help me for sure in those, in those situations. Okay, guys, thank you so, so much. I really appreciate you coming on. It's been an honor and a pleasure. And we must get together and do this again on the podcast soon.
Jodie Mears:
Let's do it. Thank you.
Craig Bryson:
Thank you. Bye.
Annie:
Bye bye for now. I help assistants apply the concepts I share on this podcast. If you're ready to take your growth deeper and you're curious whether working with me in a coaching capacity is right for you, please email me at [email protected] to schedule your complimentary discovery call.
